PART 1
Lunch -
June 5, 1998
This thing is, like, a complete disaster. [whistles]
Here you go. Such a mess, so I'm like...What is a wrap? It's
like a theme...But the difference,
between
a wrap and a burrito? Well I think a burrito has rice...I've never
had a wrap. They lead to smoothies. And Smoothies. Yeah, wraps and
smoothies. It's
the
weirdest...But... they're always sold together, aren't they? I think?
And... Right. Look, I've spilled already. That's what happens when you
get a... I know...Where'd you get these pants? Um,
Prada. They're really nice. Thanks. What other...? Well,
as you know, I'm pretty obsessed with the Yankees right now. Right. And... Wait,
wait, wait. But is there...a correlative, like Smoothies and Wraps? Well,
it's not that I have all that much to say, it's just that,
like, there's this guy, Orlando Hernandez, who pitched the other night... OK.
Is this the guy who got the no-hitter a couple weeks ago? No, you already
heard me go on about that guy. So Orlando, he's getting old. No one actually
knows
how old he is... and that's what's kind of cool about it...they say he's
twenty-eight to thirty-two. I'm turning twenty-eight soon. I'm wondering
if I'll be twenty-eight-to-thirty-two
then. Like, is that... Is that...? But, whatever, cooler than that,
he has like, his socks pulled up to his knees, throw-back style, lookin'
like Babe
Ruth. That's so cool. Its like little shorts on the basketball court? Bjorn
Borg-style. Yeah, totally. Where you're like... they just cover,
like, the bottom of your balls. But, getting back to your show. So...
Motivational speaker. Motivational speaker. Let me swallow this.
It's so hot. Inspiration through...
But there's no, uh, "Keep On..." What's that... "One Day
at a Time" bumper sticker. No...its like if you have... Again! Yeah,
you got something on your sideburn too, on your, on your right side... Do
I really?
It's been sitting there? It's just been sitting here for twenty minutes? [laughs]
No, it's still there. You
got it. [laughs] Is it gone? [laughs]
Yeah, Somehow
you get food everywhere. Um... Maybe wraps are, like, about... Wraps
are just a bad, fucking idea. [laughs] Wraps are about being
messy. Well,
I don't
understand why they can't wrap up the ends. I mean... Do I have something
up here too?
No, that's me. [laughs] But Hernandez pulls it all
the way up over and tucks his pants into the sock. That's great. The
guy's got style. He also pulls his, his hat kind of far down. So it's over...
his hat isn't on his head.
It's over
his forehead. So you don't see his eyes so much. Kind of John Deere
meets some sporty Victorian... Yeah, up and over his head. So he's mean.
It's so
punk. Do
you need another napkin?
Casey Kaplan and Corey McCorkle
PART 2
Hudson:
No computer?
Gavin Wilson: Yes, that’s correct!
H: So what am I looking at?
GW: I think of it as the photographic process through manual or hands-on, digital
delay: the activity of creating an image out of lighting and slide projections,
photographing that moment, and sometimes using those photographs or physical
manipulations of those photographs for projections and re-photographing them,
manipulating, re-photographing, etc....
H: Do you think of it as still-life or landscape?
GW: I think of them as still-life within an imaginary landscape, or as ephemeral
objects that can exist in a certain mindscape.
H: Rather like the way contemporary electronic music creates an ambiance inside
and outside of a head, while also being specific to the listener?
GW: Yes. Not one, not the other, but both; a bit dualistic.
H: There's quite a lot of that type of reading in these photos: still-life/landscape,
inside/outside, synthetic/organic, scientific/fantastical....
GW: I'm into the idea of something appearing to be very much one thing
when actually it is not. And the idea of the fantastical is something which
intrigues me.
H: Technology remains appealing to the construction of human fantasy. Happily,
the merging of the organic and the synthetic seems closer at hand than ever.
GW: It’s an attractive idea to investigate in that perhaps we’re
not so used to technology’s relationship to the organic.... For me, well,
I like its closeness.
H: Do you think that quite a number of younger artists are interested in fantasy
and personal fantasy in a way rather oppositional to the didactic manner of
80's art?
GW: I suppose...or maybe it’s just that now the personal fantasy aspect
is pursued with the purity, clarity, sincerity and simplicity, that comes through
self-questioning and awareness. Maybe today, people are looking a bit more
closely at what it is to be a self, and to have fantasy that isn’t so
heavy-handed.
H: Hard to photograph that.
GW: I guess it is or it could be.
H: Has that got anything to do with your choice of light and light projections
as a subject matter?
GW: I’m definitely attracted to light, light as an object. It's at
the core of my work and certainly a component of the construction of a fantastical.
Gavin Wilson and Hudson
PART 3
The
work of Erik Samakh questions and triggers our senses,
most particularly our eyes and ears. He encourages the
viewer to function as an actor. His projects focus on sound-based
and silent installations, gathering historical and recent
research on the links between minerals, vegetables and
animals. With his sophisticated material, of diffused and
recorded sounds, often captured in nature, he builds visual
and aural universes within the exhibition space. He works
on ideas related to time, experiences of staging virtual
events with immaterial elements. His main focus is the
notion of trail. It is from the trail that he has considered
the sound traces. His installations are interactive and
the sounds depend on the wind, humidity, temperature and
sunlight. They are invisible and unanticipated, where the
viewer is put into an active condition of consciousness
and of insecurity.
Marc
Pottier
PART 4
QUESTIONNAIRE
for Construction Workers
Do you consider your work as creative?
Do you remember all the sites that you worked on, and do you view them differently
than other buildings?
In your opinion, why are construction workers always men?
What made you want to be a construction worker?
Can you repeat a typical construction worker joke?
What does your wife/girlfriend think of your hard and dry hands?
How do you get along with your gay co-workers?
Do you consider the construction material you work with as erotic?
Would you like to design and construct a building by yourself?
Which word is used most often on construction sites?
Who would you like most of all to wall in?
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